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Atheism is not.... by moni158 Atheism is not.... by moni158
:iconimrlynotimpressedplz: ...... Just .... seriously people who think this?? Its annoying....

You wont believe how many people will say "oh you're an atheist? did you know that means your religious, since atheism is a religion, since you BELIEVE and have FAITH that there isn't a God"....... This completely contradicts the point of being an Atheist in the first place. ( definition:Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no deities. It can also mean the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. A broader definition is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.)

Its not a religion its just means you DON'T believe or have a LACK of faith.

Reminds me of a documentary I watched ( not the one where they said chimpanzees giving birth to a human was evolution ) This documentary depicted scientific research centers as churches for the religion of atheism and Darwin's book "Origin of species' as their bible, and Darwin as their prophet.....

Tl;DR Don't be lazy, go back and read it. :eyes:

Edit* and personally? I hate the word atheist...I think its a pointless word, like an a-space...( a space void of any object, organism, etc) But then again Atheist does have its differences e.g. it is a firm rejection of a God (unlike Agnosticism). Waiting for the SEE HAHAHA YOU HAVE FAITH THERE IS NO GOD! argument... but no that is not how it works. I don't believe it because I have looked at the whole situation rationally and I don't think its a plausible idea... It is just ridiculous, the supernatural is a myth and that has been proven by the fact there has never being a single documented case. I am sorry but faith just isn't good enough for me, I need proof and solid facts.
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a pity then that some atheists tend to treat atheism like some theists treat religion. Some atheists shove their atheism down your throat and make like all atheists are the same. They tend to preach their word as if you will be damned if you don't accept atheism as the one true faith. You honestly can't blame some people for calling atheism a religion based on what some atheists do with it.

I personally think that "atheist" is a reasonable word. How else would you describe a person who has no belief in a god? The majority of the planet has some belief (and that's an overwhelming majority) and people tend to need to define groups. Yes, it's a firm rejection of god's, so for the sake of brevity, you say atheist ... instead of going into a lengthy description "the person who has a firm rejection of gods" ... just say "the atheist". That is a reasonable thing to say, is it not?

I have also rationally looked at my religion and come to the conclusion that it is correct. I also won't say that a rejection of a faith is ridiculous or accepting an alternative faith is ridiculous or that their stance is ridiculous. I may not agree with the person, but that doesn't make their beliefs ridiculous, just different.  Difference is good even if it seems a little weird to us looking in from the outside.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 23, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I tend to view Atheism as a position of defense, so when I see other Atheists going out into the religious world insulting perfectly rational and kind people for their personal beliefs, I tend to become irritated. But, at the same time, I can't help but become annoyed when Theists use the behavior of some Atheists and apply them to Atheists in general. It's not like there's some verse in an Atheist holy book which says "Go forth, children of your parents, and spread the word of Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens to all of the peoples of the Earth, which is a sphere." 
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SchwarzerRitter Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015
Apparently that Atheist holy book does exist.
Christians never believed the world was flat, yet Atheists keep keep saying they did.
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Many atheists tend to judge the whole on the individual or minority too. There are a good few atheists who do "Go forth and proclaim the almighty words of Dawkins and Hitchens to the peoples of the earth, which is a cube (or pyramid, or oblate spheroid ... which ever takes your fancy)" whether it is in the book or not. That is in some human natures - wave your d*** around in public and try shove it down someones throat (which, coincidentally, shoving your d*** down someones throat is misinterpreted many many many times as just "well they are talking about God, they must be shoving their s*** down my throat).

Secondly, let's take it further, since you did say religious people are told to "go forth" ...
Luke 9:5 (MSG): If you’re not welcomed, leave town. Don’t make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and move on.
Somehow this is forgotten (or simply not known) when people try to use the "go forth" against Christians. But then again, some Christians don't know that verse either.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Everybody does it. I mean, I'm a fan of a good discussion and the occasional heated debate, but neither of those things are necessary if one of the parties isn't interested or is openly against the idea of such a discussion. What I've found is that about 98% of the time I spend having discussions with Theists I'm just correcting misconceptions they have about Atheism. Misconceptions they have because of debates they've had with other, more unpleasant Atheists. I honestly don't mind being proselytized to. I prefer having someone attempt to "introduce me to Jesus" to just demonstrating apathy. But what I've found, especially with some of the fellow Atheists I know personally, is that they would rather just say "There is no god" and move on, like they've done anything but make matters worse. That's just an attack, not a discussion. I think its harder for Atheists who've grown up without religion to understand the idea of faith and Theism, but for those of us who've been on the other side, the idea of just attacking religion with ad hominems, rather than reason, just doesn't seem right. Sorry I'm off topic. I've had a busy couple of weeks and I don't really remember what this discussion was about. 
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Shrug Couldn't agree more. I have the same feelings about the way some theists conduct themselves. Theism isn't devoid of logic and reason but they don't use this when debating their religion.

Something; something; "some atheists tend to treat atheism like some theists treat religion." ... so we're still on topic ... sort of anyway.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
People, including myself, have the tendency act "religiously" about things they care about. Although it rarely comes up in everyday conversation, I will defend Atheism, Agnosticism, Anti-theism, evolution, etc. "religiously" if I find myself being attacked. But I always put myself in the defensive position in discussions, just to avoid being labeled "militant", whatever that means. 
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Why would you defend anti theism? They are just as bad as nut job theists. It's like me supporting forced Christian education lobbyists or supporting anti LGBT groups who actively harm LGBT or supporting the moronic "Convert or you WILL GO TO HELL! You are a devil worshiper". Anti theists are really douchy about religion 98% of the time. Why would you support douchy people?

Militant is a bad choice of word, but loosely meaning an atheist who whips out their dong (their atheism) in public, waves it around and tries to shove it down your throat. Mostly what anti theists tend to do. Anti theists remind me of agro JW's ... "turn away from your foolish religion because how dare you believe something I don't and I refuse to listen to your evil words!" (ok, not all JW's, but more the stereotypical JW ... I know more cool JW's than pushy shovey ones). Best example of anti-theists are those part of the "new atheist" movement.

Atheists - I like them, I have a few atheist friends
Anti-theists - douchy, in your face, twats. I knew a guy like this who tried to get me to "see the light" and if I was a violent person, I would have punched the shite out of him ... instead I told him that if he intended to try build a friendship with me, he would have to stop with the anti religious stuff ... he didn't though and I refuse to associate myself with a-holes.

:sighs: my plain motto is not to support douchy people. Sorry.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Well, because I am one of those "2%" of Antitheists who isn't a douche bag, and I don't appreciate it when I am generalized as a "douchy, in your face, twat" just because I am personally opposed to the idea of organized religion and the belief in deities. I am not vocal or particularly active about my Antitheism, because I do not like conflict and I understand why people believe what they believe. But, that doesn't change the fact that I am opposed to what they believe, and my Atheistic "lack of belief" doesn't exactly cover that part of who I am. While the majority of Antitheists are vocal and active, so much so that many sources define "Antitheism" as active opposition to organized religion, there are a number of us who are simply opposed to it, but don't feel the need to throw it in peoples' faces. If someone were to ask me how I felt about religion, I would define it as part of "the problem" and I wouldn't support it. I would prefer a world with no religion and that does not make me a douche bag. If I could do something to encourage people to overcome their faith without making them feel like they were under attack, then I would. I will openly attack a belief system or a religious organization as long as it doesn't ignite a conflict with someone else. I am against conflict. I am also against douchy twats of any kind, Antitheists and Theists. But just because I don't particularly like most other Antitheist, that doesn't change the fact that I am an Antitheist. I also don't like many Atheists, Theists, Republicans, Democrats, Feminists, etc. because of their douchy, twatish behavior. But I am not against all of these groups in their entirety and I understand that Antitheist attracts douche bags, but it doesn't create douche bags. If someone is a douche bag and an Antitheist, then they were most likely a douche bag already. 

Sorry, I started to rant. My main point is that Antitheist doesn't automatically equal douchy, twat, just like Young Earth Creationist doesn't automatically equal uneducated idiot and Christian doesn't automatically equal Bible-thumper. There is definitely a correlation, but that's all. 
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Schneezahn Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2014   General Artist
true !
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lush-light Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014   Traditional Artist
People still don't understand and argue... even oprah bashed atheists in the 1980s
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gwarnage Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015
atheists don't talk about god because they believe he exists
they talk about god because they know YOU exist
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castieltheoddangel Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yes so freak'n true
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One-Concerned Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014
Out of curiosity, where do you believe people go when they die?
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Why would we need to believe that we go anywhere?
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Brain stops working and neurons dies. So your consciousness die too. It's like a electricity, when you open power dissipation, all electric energy will transfrom to something else.
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moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
Probably the closest morgue. 
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squiggledog Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2014
Buddhism, Daoism, and Confucianism are atheistic. Are they not religions?
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Gerszewski Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2015
They're religions, because religion is a particular variety of belief, especially when organized into a system of doctrine and practice.
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squiggledog Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2014
Being a religion does not depend on being theistic! There are many religions that are atheistic. This is honestly a pretty ignorant stamp.
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ionoid Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2015
You claim the ignorance of others, when it is you who is ignorant.

How amusing.
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Edited Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, there are religions that are atheistic. You cannot conclude from this, however, that atheism is a religion.
Atheism is a single stance on a single question. Anything beyond that may coincide with atheism, but it's not part of it.
So no, the stamp is actually not ignorant at all, it is absolutely correct.
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moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Student Filmographer
This is specifically for atheism. You're clearly not understanding that. 
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moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2014  Student Filmographer
I don't know enough about them to answer that question. Sorry.
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klx12 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014
It is a religion! ;)
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I see that moni158 didn't exactly engage you in open discussion. If you are willing, I am ready. Your above comment is false. 
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moni158 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Student Filmographer
haha funny
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klx12 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
yes, but it is true!
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moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Student Filmographer
Hahah good one! You're funny
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klx12 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
thx! =) i think that it is important that people think about atheism and the claims of trueness of religions or religous organisations
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klx12 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
thanks! ;)
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100starryskies Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe in a higher power, of what I'm not sure, but I don't have a religion. I wasn't baptized or anything, so I am an atheist. It's stupid how people think atheism is a religion, because it means exactly to not have a religion, doesn't it? I agree with you, even though I am an atheist xD
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Edited Feb 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
If you believe in a higher power but not sure what it is and you're not baptised ... you're still not an atheist. Not being baptised does not make you an atheist any more than a eating a piece of cheese doesn't make you a mouse.
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014
Hardly there's higher power, only infinity and completly non-existing.
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ToxicMutagen Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Student General Artist
I found this idiot...
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Lornext Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love Finland... So many atheists and I no one here ever even talks about religions. It would make me feel uncomfortable.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I live in Texas...
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Lornext Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, snap..
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
Seeing how atheism has it's own dogmas, symbols and leaders it's pretty hard not to think of it as one.
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Gerszewski Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2015
No, atheism is a lack of believe. It doesn't has any symbols or dogmas...
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Atheism has neither symbols, nor dogma, nor leaders.
Given its definition, that would be pretty difficult for it.
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VonRabenherz Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, that's a logo some atheist designed, with the aim to represent the idea. So? This is a creation of one guy, not a universally accepted symbol. But more importantly, it's not part of atheism itself.
Atheism is very simply this:
A single position on a single question - the question whether or not there are supernatural deities, or gods. The atheistic position on this is the rejection of belief in such beings due to complete lack of evidence for their existence.

This is atheism. And not an iota more. Anything else is separate.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner May 22, 2014
Famous atheists =! Atheist leaders
Things famous atheists say =! Dogma
Symbols used by some atheists =! Representative of all atheists

Religion: Noun. A set of beliefs concerning the cause [atheists have no unified belief in universal origin], nature[ditto], and purpose of the universe[ditto], especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies[ditto], usually involving devotional and ritual observances[ditto], and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.[ditto]
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moni158 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014  Student Filmographer
Um...
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PrincessElemix Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014
It's true.
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moni158 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014  Student Filmographer
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OpinionsProfile Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014
You are joking right?
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