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Journal Entry: Thu Oct 20, 2011, 2:38 PM


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Shit is going down..... :iconkakapoplz::iconkakapoplzplz:

As people probably know by now, there is an influx of deviations being removed by staff. They are either tightening their standards or there is someone going around reporting them ( mainly Naruto based works) I have seen a bunch of the pics that were deleted and I have to say a few of them did not violate DA TOS ( but most of them did and needed to be removed )...Maybe DA hired a new admin :eyes: lololololol

I am guessing lots of people forgot the 'no aging up characters' rule. Merely stating a character is 18+ isn't enough on DA. The character will remain the age they were when they were first introduced. Honestly I hated this rule in the beginning BUT I understand why the admins did it. Its because there is a lot of stylistic variation and it is difficult to determine whether the artist actually tried to 'age up' the character.

Nothing of mine has been removed since I tend to like older characters ( and I removed all my stuff that had under-age characters long ago *mostly Ichigo* )

I am to lazy to make a list of who so go heremaboroshii.deviantart.com/jour… for more info

I am pretty neutral on the whole thing though I find it weird that the admins are doing there jobs all of a sudden... I am not just whining aimlessly, I really like and respect this site but a while ago I reported a shit load of stuff and most of it got ignored, (under-age-erotica, explicit-pornography, Copyright infringing stuff) Why my reports the exception DA? WHY? :iconwhyyounoplz: But I forgive you.... :pat:

This is why it is important to read the TOS when you join a site... :no:


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:iconjakedj93:
jakedj93 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
My Hinata picture just got removed for "Sexualized Minor," and the whole age thing in an anime is really opinionated, how do you judge age on a freaking drawing unless it is clearly a child or an adult? The Hinata I drew was very revealing but in my mind this was an older Hinata after the war and was clearly depicted as an adult yet was treated as if she was 12 years old. I see all kinds of child Hinata pictures that go almost too far that remain in place, and I also see a lot of older Hinata pictures with her in sexually suggestive themes that are are also remaining in place. So I do not understand why I was the one to get nabbed for a drawing of a WOMAN that was clearly mature to the point where she could not be classified as a child. The admin that got so easily offended left my edits and only removed my finished product which also leads me to ask why? Seriously if you go to my page you will see, give me your opinion if you want whether she looks like a child or not.

If it's honestly necessary I could even write the plot of the story in the box, this is after the war when Hinata was an adult blah blah blah. Seems ridiculious either way, but it does make sense too. Obviously some drawings cannot be upscaled age wise, but some are of obvious maturity and cannot be considered child pornography it is just ridiculious, it is not the same as a real life photo, there is either child or not child, no in between in my opinion when it comes to anime.

I am basically being classified as a pervert and it is on no way the same level as taking naked pictures of children. Seriously think about it, it is dumb, people have a right to let their imaginations run and imagine a character as an adult and draw them in any way they want as long as they appear to be an adult, or what should we draw our anime characters with ID cards in their hands stating I AM ABOVE 18.
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jakedj93 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Another thought dawned on me, what if someone drew a character that looked like the spitting image of a child but was 400 years old in the anime, point made. Rules of reality do not and can not apply to make-believe characters. Hopefully this opens some eyes cause it is silly.
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mattcrossley Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2011  Student Digital Artist
wait what? " am guessing lots of people forgot the 'no aging up characters' rule." you're not allowed to age up characters on DA? ^o)
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CrazyFoxMoon Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Those parrots are hypnotic!!!!
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DestinyJade Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I am also shocked to see the admins doing their job but I am really glad they are. It says clearly that no underage models or anything thing sexual with minors are allowed. I find it ridiculous that people are acting like their rights were taken away...

This is a free website. It has always stated no underage minors etc so everyone has no right to complain. I understand that it sucks to have your stuff removed (And I strongly think the admins should of at least sent a warning before deleting it) but it said it in the rules. If you don't like it they can go to other art sites and do as you please. :] There's always SheezyArt for those who don't like how DA is right now.
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LumLums813 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
PWAHAHA! My deviation of Axel kissing Roxas (from Kingdom Hearts) on the cheek was deleted for:
"the characters depicted in a nude or erotic fashion are established as being underage."

Its wasn't even a full body shot!
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Holy-shit-ouo Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
I'm gonna be honest, No matter what I draw, I don't draw skeletonal structure, I draw them naked first, then add clothes. And even when I don't, I like drawing people in the nude, but only when I make them do interesting positions, nothing sexual, but it's the different contours of the body that I like, like the curvature of the ribs to their hipbones, or shoulder/collarbone/craned neck.

... That's just making me sound creepy, isn't it?
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Holy-shit-ouo Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011
Anyway, onto the actual topic, I can't draw any underage characters naked(I really shouldn't, I guess)and post it online, even if I'm just showing off their naval to head? Personally, I'm not a fan of drawing things where the sun don't shine, hell, the most I'd do is smaller cleavage(Insert cringe here).
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DeviantRoberto Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011
I kind of agree, fanart is just fine by me, but some people let their imaginations go way too wild.
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Sekaiiii Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011  Professional General Artist
I don't understand .
So , if there's a child or baby character in a manga / whatever it may be . And you draw them as a regular 20 year old adult , they get deleted ? Even if it doesn't have nudity or any of that ?
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BlackJill Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree with the asshole below; You're all being retarded.

Images of sexualized underage characters (minors) is still considered child pornography regardless if it's real or otherwise.

Because, after all, it doesn't stop being pornographic simply because the characters in question are children. dA feels that it's important to enforce this and makes it clear that simply stating a character is 18+ whilst the character itself is depicted as a minor in the original works just will not fly.

Any image/written work of a sexualized minor(s) is sick, in my opinion, and the people who make these are sick as well.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2011  Student General Artist
I agree. Deviant artist Rueme's picture that had edward's butt, deleted.

But somewhere in da, there is a really old version of Naruto, naked. Aint that disturbing.
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HanaTenshiHimeko Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2011
DA is so unorganized that it just makes me NOT want to post stuff on DA anymore. Well, I'm inactive more than half the time, so it doesn't matter. DA needs to organize a bigger team that READs the artist's description box.

Most of the artist have their characters like in their 20s in a bikini, and that gets removed. Or not even a bikini, but show a bit of of the cleavage and the tummy and that gets removed. It shows that DA is just randomly deleting things that they deemed "evil" at anything that is showing skin at first glance.

Pleaaase, I have my 8 year old cousins looking at woman in their bikinis in magazines and I don't see them having any sexual thoughts. They just say, "She's pretty," or "I like her figure" and then just flip through the next page.
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enidanadine Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Are you serious? DA has a no aging rule? I didn't know about that!
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anti-tanX Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
By the sound of it, DA staff is less likely to act on reported deviations unless it's an underage character.
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ArizonaJackal Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Well it's about time they actually start doing their jobs somewhat. I've seen them outright refuse to take down things that clearly violated the rules. At least they're doing /something/ now. The underage erotica is disturbing and should be taken down. I've no comment on the aging up rule because I guess I understand why they have it but I'm still not completely sure I agree with it.
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:iconfuhrer-glasses:
Fuhrer-Glasses Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Are you retarded?
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Filmographer
What makes you ask such a question?
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Fuhrer-Glasses Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Because people freaking out, :lol:.
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Filmographer
That can't be helped :shrug: people freak out over everything.
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moni158 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Filmographer
Nope =)
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SRSK Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Oi, troll, be nicer will you?

Oh wait... you can't. :no:
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Fuhrer-Glasses Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Implying this is trolling, :lol:.
:pat:, you'll grow out of using the wrong words sooner or later.
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:iconsrsk:
SRSK Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Then why the negative comment?

And also, I happened to notice the links you have in your signature directly apply to anyone who draws anime, for fun or anything else. The fact that you commented "are you retarded?" on a person who draws with an anime style, enjoys it, and watches anime with that signature does imply trolling.
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Fuhrer-Glasses Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
I didn't directly say the journal writer is retarded, :lol:. I'm saying "Are you retarded?" as a general comment to everyone freaking out.
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SRSK Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Digital Artist
You should make that more specific then.
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Kafae-Latte Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Thanks for mentioning it. :P I guess some stuff should just be left for external links >:D
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:iconfirelilyofthephoenix:
Okay wait., I must have missed something. What's this rule about characters, and 18+, and what? i'm so confused DX
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Maslien Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Well here's the FAQ on it: [link]

And this is the reason /why/ dA has this rule: [link]
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:iconfirelilyofthephoenix:
Thanx for the links. It clears somethings up.
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:iconmidnitez-remix:
Midnitez-REMIX Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Now I'm actually okay with the fact I don't make fanart like that! XD
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DragonHeartEve Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
....okay. Maybe I should hold off posting my fan art though its just a drawing of a manga page with flames and things I added...till this blows over. hmmm.....
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xXpsychohogXx Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
daw man ima miss some of yo works ;u;,
AT LEAST THAR'S TUMBLR LOL
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Filmographer
Tumblr is where all the good stuff goes :iconhurrrplz:
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IchiHimeMania Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
It's good that all that stuff is going but they still take forever when it comes to reporting something.
And I agree with you. There might be someone out there reporting constantly...hmm anything is possible =/
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Sikizu Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank the lord... and thank the lord that I don't draw crap like that.
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Trydeth Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One thing I have to say on this situation--> [link] That is all. :u
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:iconraineve:
Raineve Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Now if only we could get rid of the nasty crotch shots around here!
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Flippylove123 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
The sh^t IS going down.. :iconkakapoplz::iconkakapoplzplz:
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Ashurii-YaoiFangurl Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Student Writer
I don't mind if something being deleted due to sexual content and it's minors. But I don't like is that -from my experience- certain will only report certain things. In my case, it was a NaruSasu story where it got as steamy as kissing and hand in the pants. No nudity shown, it was alluded but not in detail. That was taken down for the minor thing, meanwhile I still some pics of Sakura and Sasuke about to get it on, or Hinata and Naruto in that same matter where she's basically half naked.

I'm sure -and hope- that that's not the case at this point in time. But it was definitely something that bugged me
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Akai-Miko Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
omg! da staff replied to you!
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Viur Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Doesn't bother me much personally, but I'm glad they're finally actually bothering to enforce their own rules. On the other hand, it's a shame they aren't handling other serious breaches of ToS in the same manner or with the same consistency.
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alekeii Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
they should remove all this porn stuff first... at least naruto isn't on front page every single day
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diabolumberto Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
yestarday, 3 of my deviation has been deleted by the same reason... 3 narutos with sakura
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May-Lene Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay I can't stopp laughing of this

"Shit is going down..... :iconkakapoplz::iconkakapoplzplz:"
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Chys Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
Oh yeah I don't get it at all. For some reason a while back they deleted one of my pics (which showed NOTHING) and yet kept one that showed everything (Which I'd previously reported on) and allowed that other one to be uploaded by other people having stolen it even! I just don't understand the way it works here, blatant things get ignored and innocent stuff gets cracked down on.
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Lieju Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
I'm not particularly happy with that rule, but I can see where they are coming from.

However, the way it is in most sites I visit that have yuri is that if the character looks underage (mainly determined by their breasts/hips) it's not okay, the characters age not having as much to do with it.

Since when talking about fictional characters, imposing rules based on their age is kinda vague.

Since there are characters that look 8 but are in reality 1000 years old (what does dA do with that stuff?) and characters who act and look like adults, but are officially underage.
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Drakel-X Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol but Ichigo's now 18 i think, is that considered underaged?
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YoshikuniChiaki Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011
17.
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Drakel-X Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh right, always get that mixed up ;p
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