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What is Art?

Journal Entry: Sun Sep 18, 2011, 4:26 PM


I am rigging my model for the second time after a failure of epic proportions.... must ...follow...the tutorial more closely D'= … and I am making bread..our new bread maker is wonderful ='D

Disclaimer!...All of what I am saying here is based on my own opinion.

Warning wall of text begins here....:iconotlplz:


I am taking a short break and there is another thing that has been on my mind for a while. As most of you are aware there is a lot of fuss over what is art and what isn't. People have been arguing over it for centuries. People saying the sublime isn't art, landscapes weren't art, comics weren't art and manga isn't art (even though manga and comics are technically the same thing)

I personally believe art is a deeply personal thing and it differs drastically from person to person. It can be a piece that evokes an introspective point of view on society, human nature, aesthetics, a statement, emotional, historical or focused on the future. I often hear people complain about those painting that involve merely throwing paint on a canvas. Usually its something like this "That rubbish takes absolutely no skill, I could go throw oil paint on an oversized canvas, then would I become a famous artist?".The fact that they threw paint on a canvas has nothing to do with showing their talent but more of a visual question of what's art and why can't this be art too? Its more of an outside the box idea on the constraints of what's considered art in society. I don't really want to go into a history lesson but if you have spare time and want to look it up then look for Modernist art.

Art takes the maturity to step back and question why? What does it make you feel? This is the basis behind art, and this brings me into my next point.

Art and DeviantArt.
Deviant art is no-doubt the biggest art community on the internet and has an array of different artists from all walks of life. This brings a wide range or art and a wide range of opinions and naturally opinions tend to clash and people tend to get angry. For example the whole 'that's porn not art because I say so' or 'that doesn't belong on this site therefore it isn't art'. De/motivation Posters are my pet peeve and I really really don't like them, they break the TOS (terms of service)(only if they use infringing material) for this site and they take little to no effort BUT I still think they are art. Why? Because they intent to convey an emotion or feeling. Whether it's motivation, humour or just aesthetics, in my eyes they have just as much right to be called art as Da Vinci's Mona Lisa. Porn on the other hand, you can call it trashy, tacky, cheap whatever you want and in most cases I would agree, but I still think its art. It does evoke a feeling and even if its lust, its still a feeling that it was intended to portray but and image that merely has nudity and is clearly not intended to be overtly sexual being labelled as porn is a bit ridiculous.

Warning mature content in the linked images

For example Rapture by Algenpfleger and Janaschi fav.me/d2eg1u8
Combined both of the images have around 120 dismissed reports. Why? Because the DA staff have decided this image doesn't violate TOS or is an exception. I myself had a problem with this image a year or so ago but my opinion has changed since then. I do not think it is porn but it is definitely sexual. The image is shocking to say the least but I think that is its purpose. Its bizarre, disturbing and perhaps symbolises a distorted and sin filled world remaining after a rapture. It could also just be something that the artist duo drew for their friend out of preference but either way its an interesting image to interpret. Like I said before you need to step back and question why? What does it make you feel? If its disgust? Is that what you are meant to feel? If its curiosity, awe, confusion? Is it all intentional? That is why I really like this piece. (besides the fact it's stunningly painted) I also think there is an emphasis on the contrast between the beauty of the girls and the ugliness of the bugs.

Another example is Crisis de Identidad by Angelishi angelishi.deviantart.com/art/C…
This image was awarded a DD and there was a lot of fuss over it. A lot of people had concerns that it broke Deviant Art TOS and that staff were playing favourites with deviations. I will admit it was teetering on the edge of what is allowed but DA clearly states in its TOS that it will grant  exceptions if there is grounds to do so. I am glad DA does this since they save them for works that convey a lot of meaning. This work for example shows the horrors, confusion and pain of gender crisis and gender identity. Its rigid visual style conveys a lot of emotional anguish and I feel it shows the horrors and pain people going through such an ordeal must feel.

TL;DR: Art is personal and what I consider art may not be what you consider art. Just appreciate the diversity and try not to fight so much ^^;

If you have any thoughts on this? feel free to share. =)


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17005SKAILA Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2011  Student General Artist
i REALLY don't feel like reading that right now so Imma just say what i feel:

Art is Everything & Everything is Art



that's it
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SabGDroxxx Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2011
So the first thing I thought when I saw this was "What is art? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more" *trollface bobbing*

And then I read the journal. So yeah.

I personally think that art is art. As long as it means something to someone in the concept of art, then it's art. If it represents something to someone, then it's art. If the artist thinks it's art, then it's definitely art. If it represents someone's feelings, whether it be speech, such as singing, drawing, whether it be abstract or something else, or even in words, such as proses and poems, then it's art. Art cannot exactly be described for me, therefore when someone asks me what "art" is, I never answer. I just say "art is art, whatever you think art is."

Everyone will think that art is something different. I don't really know if that makes sense but yeah. That's what I think art is.
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99rupees Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
total agreement.

art is so subjective..and we can't dismiss what others see as art just because it doesn't strike us as such. well said!
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Xuruki Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2011   Digital Artist
Art is an Lifestyle...
People think "i like art" and think everything they dislike isnt art.
they never question about it.

Even porn is art XD
Its painted on a Canvas and you can see something in it.
Even if u dont like a Picture, that doesnt mean its not art.
Art is art even if u dislike it XD
PRetty simple.
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gaarasbabe2000 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Student Writer
"Art". That one small word is the cause of this whole problem. People are not trying to decribe the concept of "art", they are trying to describe the word. People view the world in terms of words. If a word cannot be described, it is not a word at all, and likewise, if something cannot be explained it simply does not exsit. This is the problem was to why people do not understand "art". People, when thinking about "art", are thinking about the term that has been smacked down inside of a dictionary, they are not thinking about the concept. "Art" has one simple concept, in my mind, and that concept is to draw two (or more) individuals together by protraying a simlar thought in a form that uses one (or more) of the five senses. There are people out there who say that they do not appreciate "art" but in truth they do, they just do not realise it as being "art" because they are thinking about the term for "art", not the concept.

I would go on, but that would be hammering the nail in a little too far, so I'll end with the statement that "art" as a word does not exsist but "art" as a concept does.
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WolfChild18 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Art that I fave, means I felt an emotion with it.

Some art teachers I had hated the fact that my group of friends and I almost always drew anime. What they didn't realise is that we all enjoyed it because of the emotions it drew out of us. The majority of us did grow out of it, in a sense. We still occassionally draw in an anime style, but we've also expanded.

With me, my drawings are 'craptastic', but I can work with my hands in pottery or some form of crafting pretty well. Where I consider my jewelry making, cross stitching, and sewing art. Others would see it as just a hobby or a craft.

I guess you can say, art is defined by the artists and those that the artwork touched with emotion.
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BoogermeisterNeema Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
While some are considered art to some people, it might be bizarre to others. For example, I went to MOMA and saw a pop-up tent inside a nest made of fiberglass branches and flood lights, and I didn't really get it. In another art museum, there was an artist who re-created some famous pictures with 'ghetto flair'. In that same museum, I saw a blimp-like statue made by that Japanese dude who created that 'Graduation' album for Kanye West.

I think art is like a buffet; everyone got a different taste! That's my opinion! LOL
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Bitlits Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree with what you said, Moni :3

I slightly recall seeing something in the TOS about REAL LIFE Nudity not allowed to contain anything that resembles sperm or mucus (an orgasm). I didn't see anything about drawn art not being allowed to have it.

People are just afraid of nudity, or they're paranoid. Mostly it's females who think a man is trying to "expose" other women to the world (lol meanwhile, lots of women on dA draw nudity and pose nude themselves). They see a penis or vagina and they freak out and go "OH GROSS IT'S PORN!!"

So I guess that means that The Discus Thrower, The Kiss, The Thinker, The Venus de Milo, and The Statue of David should be considered porn, according to these people? Because it features nudity as a way of expressing beauty and strength and pride?

I think these people just need to grow up, mature from these little crybabies, and learn to take a closer look at art and try to discover the deeper meanings in them. Otherwise, they have no right to call themselves an artist.

Who are they to judge somebody else's work? Who are they to say what is wrong and what is right? They aren't God. And they can't make people do what they want just because they make a fuss about it. *huffs* Honestly, people these days... Art is supposed to be a feeling you express in your own way, whether it be through painting, sculpting, writing, photography, or even showing God's greatest creations to the world (not that I'm very religious, but I hear that expression a lot). It doesn't matter what it is.

These little kids are just overreacting too much.
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hikarisen Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2011
like Gombrich said, Art doesn't exist. :)
but i like to think, that art is what the artists do.
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danis58 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2011
I agree fully.

One's concept of art grows up just while you do too. I myself thought at my 13 or 14 that art consisted in an armonic creation, in technique, knowledge, tradition. But when I learnt more about it, and found other kind of art apart of the one that's shown to you since you're a kid, like Da Vinci's or Miguel Angel's, my concept changed eventually, becoming one quite similiar to yours.

I think art is what awakes something in the viewer and at least a little part of that something is what the artist thought or felt when he/she was creating it. It's something that always will have an interpretation and a meaning previously given and that you, as a viewer, modify according to your senses and opinions.
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