Value is man-made. We give things value ourselves. If you think there is not value in your life? then their isn't any but if you choose to cherish your life and live every second for enjoyment and to the fullest then your life is as valuable as it gets.
I don't believe in souls or deitys and I consider life precious and invaluable because it is finite. Life is precious because it is meaningless. We don't need to be here? it achieves nothing at all and yet it is a wonderful experience we are lucky to have.
I agree, value really isn't anything but a manufactured idea by man. Nothing in this universe really has value, that is why we make our own. We put value into our lives to give them purpose and the great thing is we can give ourselves purpose just by believing we have one.
Yes and you make a good point there too. Our natural purpose in life..,(judging on our instincts and patterns displayed in nature) is to reproduce and continue our species. Survival is the main objective.
so it seems like we actually agree in a way. There really isn't value to anything aside from what we make up in our heads if this is all there is.
where I disagree is that I believe that there is objective value to people. I think an understanding of that leads to traits like love, mercy and sacrifice; the things that break to mold of survival instincts. That is why people will give there lives for someone else, or suffer for what they believe in.
I think that everyone has a subconscious understanding of that value and that's where we differ from the rest of creation (and thats also why athiests share those traits above). looking at the poll, the majority of voters said that they believed that we have infinite value even when there's no logical reason to think that.
Well, me being a Christian, my mission in life is to serve and glorify God, as well as spread the good news of His saving grace. I believe God sent His holy, perfect Son Jesus to die for my sins so that I wouldn't have to die and burn eternally in hell for my sins.
Supposing that there is no afterlife (which there is), that would mean that my life would be meaningless. Equally as true, life itself would be nothing but vain illusions of self-importance since everyman dies and when they're dead--well, why should they care? They're dead!
I suppose everyone has their own purpose in life. But without an afterlife, without God... there really isn't a point is there?
Surely it doesn't matter whether there is an afterlife, what makes your life valuable is the positive influence your life has had on other people. If I die and no one remembers me, my life was useless, but if people rejoiced at the memory of me, for some deed I did, then whether I was conscious of it or not, my life would have had infinite meaning. That's just my opinion.
i really dont believe in anything after you die, your dead and thats it but it really makes you think a little. what is your life, what is the value. my answer and opinion is, its what you want it to be and what you make it. I think its different for each person to choose what there life is, that is if they believe in an afterlife then thats what they go through life for. myself, i want to be able to live forever but a lot of people will think that sounds crazy when it actually isnt so dont say anything about that little bit there. so yeah, life is what you make it out to be.
I believe that life it's self is to big and mysterious to truly know if there is life after death...its like asking if we are the only intelligent race that lives in our universe, some would say no because there are to many facts that point to the possibilities while others would say yes because there has been no true proof given to the cause. I would like to believe there is a life after death, even if there is not. People need a purpose, like bed time stories to a child. Sometimes we need the comforting soothing feeling of a lie.
I don't really believe in an afterlife. I tend to objectify life and all living things, so I tend to in turn, think of life as valueless. Although, value itself is a concept created by humans, a product of life. So considering that matters of value, worth, fun, happiness, sadness, are all "inventions" of life, it's kindof up to us as individuals to determine.
I also believe, we are only as alive as our bodies. When our bodies die, we die. When we die, the energy we are composed of breaks up and is absorbed into other life. So all life is sortof connected. I guess all living things are connected by the common laws of life, and through that we're all sortof one and the same, and even when we die, we live, because others are alive, and the concept of life will go on even when or if all life is destroyed for a time, I guess. Sorry if I'm making this answer a little more complicated than it has to be. XD
I mean, our individual consciousness is lost, but because we die, we throw our energy back into the pool, and from the pool, more life forms, fresh, then as it loses it's freshness, it's returns it's energy into the pool so more life can be renewed... or something...
It makes life infinitely valuable because this is it. But at the same time, it makes life valueless because (assuming the afterlife involved some sort of "judgement") there's nothing to work for, no real reason for anything.
I believe in the afterlife. But as for fiction: If there is no afterlife, your life become valueless. Instead it makes your works and creations more valuable becouse it affects the next generations short life. So your life only become valuable if you work, build and create! But in the end, the human life is just valueless. But that's just a fiction for an idealist like me.
I put much efforts into afterlife. Becouse just 60-80 years are too short for me. I want to do even bigger and bigger things! So I just want to live till infinity.
Life should be fulfilling in itself. I feel like people should live their life and then after that comes to an end, it should be just that, an end. Does there really need to be more after an end? Do you really need to keep on existing in an afterlife? I understand that a lot of people die before "their time," but what's the point in living forever? Sounds really tiresome to me. Everything has an end, even life.
I think people made up the concept of afterlife because they were afraid to die, afraid of that end. I don't think we should be. People need to live their lives to the fullest knowing that they won't get another chance. Knowing that once that end comes, that's it.
I mean, you live qith all your effort in order to feel good with yourself at the time you die, waiting and hoping that all the sacrifices, everything you went through is worth it, on the afterlife. And if there's nothing, then living the way you did was senseless.
Yet, you live... And living is beautiful experience. ♥
i guess it's very hard to grasp that there might be nothing when we die... in my opinion (i'm depressed according to some of my friends XD) life has no value at all. For if there is no after life, and i don't think there is, then we don't have any memories anymore so it doesn't matter wether you fail in life or have the most wonderful life ever. in the end nothing remains, you won't remember or feel anything... making life valueless when there is no afterlife...
I've ever understood why afterlife would give your life value. Like, if there's no big prize/punishment for the things you've done, at the end of it all, there's no point? Do people who really believe in this stuff always think that way.
That they are only being nice to people and are loved because they are thinking what happens after one's death?
creykFeatured By OwnerDec 23, 2011Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, if you think about it it would give it value because as long as you're in the psysical body you can interact with physical things which is said to better than the non-physical objects. But that is only from out perspective, beccause we can't really experience the thing what comes after
"you can interact with physical things which is said to better than the non-physical objects." Said by who? And what non-physical objects are you talking about, and what does this have to do with the value of life?
"But that is only from out perspective, beccause we can't really experience the thing what comes after" I'm not really sure if I should start guessing what you mean...
You need to rephrase what you're saying, if you want me to understand.
creykFeatured By OwnerDec 23, 2011Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Okay, I'll try: So, we live in the physical body, surronded by physical objects. But I think in a non-physical life there will be other thigs as well with which we can interact. If you think about it an afterlife where there is nothing but you wouldn't make much sense.